I wouldnt want to do an International to domestic transfer at JFK (one that required a terminal change) in less than 3 hours. If you book it, be prepared to run. I am flying Toronto JFK with Delta. However, having flown "the back of the bus," and having experienced "my plane made it to the gate, but no one is there to operate the jetway," I prefer to book a longer connection. Very helpful, Scott! I have not against black people in general but you all know exactly the type of person I'm talking about with their distinct tone if voice full of cold hearted attitude. . I fly a lot. 1B). All 3 lines stop at all terminals, but the Airline Terminals Train is the fastest way around. I do have Global entry. Opinions expressed here are the authors alone, and have not been reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any of these entities. Right across the hallway at T-20 and I was first off the plane. Even as an EXP they were closing the door at T-20. People dont ever look at Connection times when they can save cash. I wouldnt worry though. This is the first time I've EVER arrived home at a gate below 19 on AA - but I've frequently come into Gate 34 at the other end of the airport. I live in a non hub city and the best priced and timed itineraries from PSP involve a minute connection in PHX. Years ago I was coming back from Argentina to Dallas. Please review the special minimum required times below so you can plan accordingly and make sure you check in within the required number of minutes before your departure time. If, for some reason, you feel you can't make a connection within the allotted time, contact. Because of how long it takes to walk to the AirTrain station in some terminals, I would want at least an hour and a half for a no-stress connection. Had I been 30 second later it would have been too late. Clearly you don't fly American because American rarely will hold a flight. We recommend you arrive to the airport at least 3 hours before your scheduled departure for international flights. To make matters worse, PSP-PHX is a Mesa flight which is not at all likely to be delayed :). Likewise, they wont even consider an adjacent airport to fly you into (like DAL vs. DFW, or EWR instead of JFK). Either you could play the 'I have a baby and I'm coming through' card or allow so much more time than you ever had considered reasonable as a singleton/couple. Ive always thought that the airlines can have short MCTs if they want but then they should warn you if you try to book a really short connection and offer you a longer connection option (if you want to be more sure your travel wont be disrupted). Min Time at Gate Before Departure. Sounds like you just have a racism issue. My brother and sister in law have Global Entry. Also, Matthew at LALF gets lots of non-responses in addition to the canned responses when he does get one. Inbound on international itineraries into DFW I book around an hour because there are flights every hour back to my home base if I misconnect there. The following is a detailed breakdown of exactly how long itll take you to make connections at JFK for nearly any situation (based on my own personal experience). Hey Christina yeah, 30 minutes sounds scary (itd even make me pucker up a little lol) but its super easy to get all the way from one end of Terminal 5 to the other in no time flat. I'd rather not have to 2 stop a domestic trip. My luggage be checked in all the way from DFW or do I need to recheck it in JFK? Luckily it's a 6-hour layover so you have plenty of time, but alsoit's a 6-HOUR LAYOVER AND YOU CHANGE AIRPORTS. Itll simply be a matter of walking from one plane to the next (with no security checks). If the connection had to have 30 min in Austin instead of 25, you might not get that low fare you wanted. Unfortunately I don't have always the choice but for sure, in Europe my favorite airport is MUC. We at are arriving at JFK at 9:59pm on Jetblue from Savannah. One of those flaws is the time it takes to move between terminals. Nos ha pasado 2 veces viajando desde Orlando hacia Bogota. It can be difficult to find this information on an airline's . They are applied globally to develop and ensure viable connections. My wife needs wheel chair service to the plane, although I would prefer a short connection I normally need at least 1 hour depending upon the airport, in Phoenix I book minimum 90 minutes. Those carriers might not operate in . Thank you! Theres insane amount of international traffic coming into the JFK Airport at all hours of the day Its going to get backed up at times, so have a little patience. Id try to get a longer layover if possible, but it wont be the end of the world if you cant. The exception is Phoenix, which also has a 25-minute MCT, though thats a hub I generally avoid (just due to the geography, given that I live in Florida). Hell no! Hi Phoebe Im glad youre finding this useful! Just walk from one plane to the next no security checks will be required. Just keep moving as quickly as you can and you shouldnt have any issues. And it was one of their tiny ass planes where any roller suitcase gets valet sticker at gate. JFK minimum connection times (what you can realistically expect). So that leaves you (*gets out calculator*) zero minutes to make your connection. It's not just AA. LAX RJ to RJ. I would say you could do a 25 minute connection if your flight was on time. We're part-time European residents and our nearest (truly) international airport is ORD. A few months back I was connecting in MCO to MIA (after being rerouted through MCO) and the inbound was late. thank you please advise. Entitled much? Good luck! Thank you so much Scott!! Not too big of a deal if there are other frequencies later on in the day, but if that isn't the case it can be a nightmare. As Dirty Harry said, "do you feel lucky punk." Most of the international airlines which serve JFK are split between Terminals 1 and 4, though there are also some operating out of Terminals 5, 7 . with their bullshit. Editorial Disclosure: The editorial content on this page is not provided by any entity mentioned herein. 1 hour and 40 minutes will be easy! We have a connecting flight in terminal 7 to Buenos Aires at 3:25 pm with Aerolinas Argentinas. Hi George yes, 2 hours to go though customs and immigration at JFK will be tight (especially if you have checked luggage), but the thing thatll make it easy is that you wont have to switch terminals. Athens, Greece (ATH) 2 Hours Before Departure. 1. Depending on the connecting airline, connecting times may be longer than those listed above. I think it would be a relatively stress free experience with a 3 hour layover. Your thoughts and is there any way to expedite the connection? Hey Jen Delta uses Terminal 4 at JFK (youll arrive and depart from there), so you wont have to change terminals. I go to the airport anyway and go to AA counter and tell a white guy what happened. I haven't checked lately but LAX used to have a very low MCT for flights at the Eagles Nest. I'm able bodied.I. Any advantage there? Not an easy task!! If the second leg has plenty of substitute flights in case of late arrival, I might go as low as 60 minutes, but no less. Id rather get a plethora of connections than just a few that price me out of the market. If I have been on a given route and have reason to believe I won't have to change terminals, I might risk booking a slightly shorter connection. AUS expanded to over 30 gates just before Covid, and the other day, I arrived on a flight from LAX at Gate 1. Airport. I have also seen 30 min connections on DL in Atlanta. If it pushes back then sits for the required 25 minute delay I'd be really mad sitting there looking at it on the ramp. :), watching your plane sit at the gate going nowhere with the jetbridge disconnected is pure heartbreak. To make it worse, we were a couple of minutes early, and then had to wait 5 minutes for them to put a jet way on and open the door, giving her only 20 minutes, and we were around row 17..really absurd policy. We are 3 adults from UK coming from Dallas then on to Heathrow. From there, you will need to go to the Delta check in area to re-check your luggage. Have a good trip! And it was one of their tiny ass planes where any roller suitcase gets valet sticker at gate. She cant get thru security but if we have to reclear anyways, it seems like we might have enough time to try to meet up and not feel stressed. Its so frustrating flying with them. An advantage of this would be access to cheaper fare inventory when the system creates a connecting itinerary. I don't agree with it. The agent says well next time don't book flights so close together. You wont have the ability to go anywhere else. MCTs should be based on the when the boarding times of the connecting flights start and NOT their departure time! This means that all partner airlines are grouped together in a way that makes sense. Hi Mae if you wont have to retrieve any luggage and/or check in for your connecting flight in Terminal 1, youll have plenty of time (and it wont be all that stressful). Whats your experience? If the tickets were purchased separately, then yes you will need to retrieve and re-check your luggage. AA'd likely give some BS non-answer about customer feedback and ensuring passengers get to their destination "quickly and safely" yet completely ignoring that if customers miss flights because of short MCTs, they're getting NOWHERE quickly and safely. While looking at flights, I was surprised to stumble upon what must be among the shortest minimum connection time in the United States. Try the connection in Chicago. Minimum connection times are the shortest amount of time that airlines can offer as a layover between flights. So you could arrive nearly 15 minutes late and miss your connection, while the DOT still counts that flight arrival positively toward Americans on-time performance. Theyve only given a 45 minute transfer time. The fly was 1 hour late so when we arrived I had 45 minutes to pick up my luggage, go through customs and check it in again for my second fly. That means the very first stop after Terminal 1 is Terminal 8. Unfortunately, if I take a packaged tour I can't always get what I want. For layovers of under an hours the plan A is to miss the flight and the plan B is not to miss the flight. I would want a minimum of 2 hours for this if it were me. Such a disaster. Home->LGA/JFK->European Home. Would you adjust any of your time estimates to take into consideration the construction? And I'm talking as flying about an average of 400k miles a year, so yes, I have had some luck. Yes absolutely. Most of their hubs are so poorly designed, making a connection on time is a nightmare. I believe atleast 1.30 hrs connection time is safe for big terminals. My arrival gate was :01 minute walk - the next gate over (score one in the WIN column). AA seems to do this quite a bit everywhere with RJ's which is kind of interesting since stepping off the jet time is replaced by waiting for your valet bag, unless you were smart enough to check it through and let it be ramp transferred from tail to tail. Now AA does warn you about the connection time. all on one ticket American Airlines operated by British Airways. for all kind of connections. A good rule of thumb when booking a connecting flight: A few months back I was connecting in MCO to MIA (after being rerouted through MCO) and the inbound was late. American has always been weird this way. Appreciate the help . So if your connecting flight is scheduled to depart at 1:00, the airline will have that door open for you up until 1:58, as you have your ticket scanned, saunter down the runway and through the airplane door at 12:59, and while youre doing the passenger shuffle to take your seat, the forward cabin crew will be saying their thanks a bunch see ya soons to the ground crew as they shut and secure the planes door. North America. There were 8 of us making that same connection 3 FC, 5 Y. Flight connections make new destinations available to passengers and create new revenue opportunities through codesharing and interlining. Plus there is no trip though security on a connection. No problem! Itll be especially easy if you dont have to change terminals. Do you think its feasible or its too short ? take your overhead into consideration. Hi Claire youre going to be fine. Note to American (and all other) hiring managers: Angry black bitches who hate everyone and everything do NOT belong in customer service roles. The percentage of Delta flights that have gotten to my first hip on time is easily over 90%. You need to be Using Bolt to make connections in some airports! Not entirely anyway. In Ben's defense, the ROI simply isn't there. The airline knows youre arriving where and when before you do. The comments on this page have not been provided, reviewed, approved or otherwise endorsed by any advertiser, and it is not an advertiser's responsibility to ensure posts and/or questions are answered. Its worth noting that terminal changes arent usually required at JFK as long as youre flying the same airline (or airline alliance). Hi Scott, While I was one of the first off the plane and through Global Pass in minutes, my luggage took forever to get on the conveyor. I wont book a flight with less than a 60 minute connection time. Southwest: At least 30 minutes if you have checked bags. Ugh. If you do end up missing the flight to LAX, theyll just put you on the next one. The good news is that movies and TV shows are often exaggerated. Your example itinerary is even scarier since it's an RJ to a mainline jet. I'm a free agent for US3 flights anymore because, well, they all generally suck for one reason or another - product, miles, whatever - and AA insists on doing this to us. I would contact QR and say due to them changing your flight you request your flights to be changed or refunded and point out that the connection time is probably in violation of rules (even check on them) or you could ask them to have someone meet you at the plane and get off first and have someone drive you through maybe. Down to :30 minutes to make the connection - or :20, to boarding ending. Hi Jay yes, you will need to go claim your checked luggage before going through customs (which will happen right after you clear passport control). Should I expect separate entry lines with TSA Pre or will there be individual check in kiosks? . When I called American Airlines , their response was if they scheduled it , you can make it ! For the 2022 year, Im currently Diamond with Delta as well as Exec Plat with American. These times apply regardless of whether or not you are checking baggage. As long as I didnt have to switch terminals, my personal minimum connection time for a domestic to international flight at JFK would be 1 hour and 10 minutes. You wont have any issues if your inbound flight is on time. From what i understand, Delta is located in T3 and AA in T8, and taking the AirTrain is a breeze - 10min tops between these 2 terminals. Delta: 30-minute minimum connection time. Regarding this topic. Delta Air Lines operates a major international hub out of Terminals 2 and 4, while American Airlines has a hub in Terminal 8. I wouldnt book anything less than that. Hi Tracey domestic to international in an hour and a half will be super easy (just walk from one plane to the next). But starting at BRU I don't have always the option MUC to connect. We're part-time European residents and our nearest (truly) international airport is ORD. Hi what about the baggage? Air France doesnt fly from JFK to Prague nonstop. When I grabbed my suitcase from the carousel due to trying to hurry, I dropped it right bellow my knee and broke my leg!!! I see the attendant bypass my suitcase multiple times and politely try asking for it and the other passengers gently told me to just wait and I explain that my connection will be leaving soon and it's in another terminal. Most helpful, Scott! I've seen flights with connection times as short as 25 minutes. There's nothing to "believe" about Pre Check. I try to avoid Austin for any traveling. There are always people on the flight connecting to New Orleans and almost every time we are asked to let these passengers off first because of the tight connection. Keep in mind this is for an "interline . Have a good trip! From Doha to New York, which arrives at JFK (terminal 8) at 3pm EDT - operated by Qatar. The fastest and most efficient way to move between most terminals at the JFK Airport is to use the AirTrain (there are stations located at each terminal). If I do miss a connection, every incursion, they see my status and assist in getting me where I need to go. From New York to Raleigh, which departs from JFK (terminal 8) at 4:19pm EDT - operated by American Airlines. Needles to say the pain was unbearable and had to take time off and deal with medical bills. We have checked luggage. Yes! Wow ! Have a good trip! Often, after booking, AA will change my outbound flights forcing a tight connection and I have to phone to change it My personal policy outbound on international itineraries is 2 hours +/- 15 minutes MCT given that my international flight, if a misconnect occurs, forces a 24 hour delay. Even if you cant get all the way to the front by asking, chances are good that youll be able to move ahead far enough to make a difference. Once clearing customs, you will be released into the arrivals area of T4. My American flights out of Knoxville usually connect in Charlotte, Dallas, or Chicago. I had to be on board at 9:35 p.m Minimum Connecting Time (Approximate) JAL other international airlines: 120 minutes: JAL other domestic airlines; Other international airlines JAL: Last night I was looking at an itinerary from Albuquerque to Tampa, and stumbled upon a pretty good option on American, which was both by far the cheapest, and by far the fastest. Correctiontakes AT LEAST 15 minutes to get off an Airbus 321 if youre seated near the back! Been there! For example, you wont have to schlep across the entire airport to transfer from one Star Alliance or Oneworld airline to another. @ Sel, D. -- Wow, good catch. American Airlines (AA) have given me 90mins to connect at JFK. Do you know if I have to get my bags re checked and if I have to go through security again in JFK? Youll have to ask those in line in front of you. I would never book this, I think my average delay time on AA is >25 minutes, unless you assume your connecting flight's pushback is also subject to AA's MDT ("Minimum Delay Time") of 25 minutes. In that case, even a 45 minute connection would be fine connecting to a flight in the same terminal. A 25 MINute connection is definitely a miNUTE connection! It works either way. I have decided to stop flying American Airlines because of other things they did which to me seemed quite abhorrent. 2 hours is going to be tight, and I will admit that Id be nervous about doing an international to international connection (with a terminal change) in that amount of time. Its not the 25min MCT that kills you on American. It's ridiculous. One has to clear security again with a terminal change regardless of domestic-domestic or domestic-international, correct ? For instance CM at PTY does 40 min connections, including to some US destinations (e.g. But yes. If you have the dreaded 33B chair, ask the gate agent if anything has become available closer to the door. The following MCTs exist STATION CONNECTION TIME ARR CARRIER ARR FLIGHT # DEPARTURE CARRIER DEPART FLIGHT # ARR DEP STATUS HHMM Carrier Codeshare Indicator Codeshare Operating Range Start Range End Codeshare Indicator Codeshare Operating Range Start Range End They are all separate buildings, connected by an inter-terminal train (the AirTrain). Toronto (YYZ): 90 minutes And you dont need to worry ahead of time about where to go and how to get there they will funnel you directly to customs and immigration right from the plane. Save. I am on a Delta flight LHR-JFK arriving at 2:20. Recently, I had a :36 minute connection time at LAX - :26 minutes if you factor when boarding ends. Not very damn likely! Youll need a minimum of 2 hours to connect from an international flight to a domestic flight at JFK. It just leaves the front line employees there to clean up the mess I guess upper managements version of going for great / taking care of people on lifes journey is a lot different from ours. We departed BRU with 2hrs delay due to a technical issue and once I arrived at LIS they where just starting the boarding for the LIS-GRU and I was allready out of their system to continue my flight. Eventually they have to deplane us and we wait in the terminal since it's time to board the next flight. There are 5 passenger terminals at JFK. Hi Leyi youre very welcome! While the minimum connection time for most airlines at Los Angeles (LAX) for a domestic to international flight is only 45 minutes, I give myself at least 2 hours if I am traveling on separate tickets. I had one where I had 30 minutes in DCA to connect to my other flight never again. Just wondering time being limited if we told someone at the terminal that we had a time issue would we have a chance of being ushered to the front? They know if any others are booked to your itinerary, and whether you have checked luggage that requires consideration. You can make it, but youre going to have to hustle! Is this a legal connection? On the one hand, a 25-minute MCT in Austin seems really aggressive. Flight attendants tried to calm me but.they confessed that it was just a couple of gates shy of the longest distance I could walk between the terminals. If the connection had to have 30 min in Austin instead of 25, you might not get that low fare you wanted. The minimum connection time in Paris is between 60 and 90 minutes, depending on the flight. Youre welcome Jim! 25 minutes is enough time to get a meal on your Austin connection before boarding your next flight tbh, Until there's no ramper shortage or no available gate. Even as an EXP they were closing the door at T-20. Flight attendants tried to calm me but.they confessed that it was just a couple of gates shy of the longest distance I could walk between the terminals. document.getElementById( "ak_js" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The short connection times that AAL often books me in CLT always cause me to call and change, sometimes multiple times. I won't normally book connecting flights between any two points without at least 90 minutes' layover. I would only call the high A gates club closet-sized. If you read your boarding passes, boarding on most carriers ends :10 minutes before the scheduled departure. Much less stressful that way! Know Your Airport's Minimum Time for Connecting Flights. I was willing to pay more and change my seat for 1 in coach closer to the front with extra leg room. Only the domestic portion goes into LGA and the international portion in and out of JFK. There will be separate lines most of the time its clearly labeled, so itll make perfect sense once youre there. Here's what the official rules are when booking: American: Reported to be 25 minutes. Do you think its enough time for such a change or I rather look for a different flight ? Which happens to end good for me and 5 other people who I invited as my "friends" to board the flight. I recently waited for my valet checked bag at PHX with quite a few silly people that were trying to make a tight connection. The connection time was 80 minutes. And when would this occur during a connection? Re: American Airlines with a short connection time 5 years ago Save Nope. A 25 minute connection is ABSOLUTELY absurd! I was especially upset because even though it was tagged priority, AA didnt seem Just experienced this yesterday doing an AA international arrival and domestic departure at PHX. Both flights are part of the same ticket. Hi! I have a question re. Thank you American for making me feel so miserable! Tight Connection - JFK. MCTs (Minimum Connecting Times) are standardised and agreed data sets which provide the minimum possible connecting time for both a passenger and their luggage to connect between an arriving flight and their departing flight. Hi Josephine I think youll have enough time, but youre going to have to keep moving as fast as you can just in case there are any delays along the way. I'd be pissed if I was an AA employee, too. Its just not worth the stress and hassle. The airline may or may not provide a hotel. is this a little too tight, or do you think ok? Have a great trip! at FRA the MCT is 45min. You will NOT make a 25 minute connection. So if you want the cheaper fare you take the risk. Airlines are supposed to allow a specific amount of time between connecting flights. I'm guessing for them rebooting is easier than dealing with more complex computer programming. You have successfully joined our subscriber list. So I booked the same itinerary again for this Thanksgiving, but I recently looked at it again and it only had a 45 minute connection time in DOH! American's ground staff get stuck dealing with the chaos. Good luck! If youre traveling with a five year old who MUST go potty, the most irrational and foolish gambit one take is to minimize that urgency and contend with the consequences on the next airplane. I would love your input. MAD-JFK-CLT. Customs and immigration lines can get long, so I would want a minimum of 2 and half hours. Retrieve your luggage from the baggage carousel, Go through customs before exiting into arrivals area, Check your bags at the Delta ticket counter, Proceed through the security checkpoint to enter T4. One of my regular flights is LAX to Austin. I was going from LGA to ORD with 30min connection in PHL. The anxiety was almost crippling as we landed in Phoenix. and 3 hours for international. It took about half an hour after the door opened for it to get to us the last 6 times we flew AA. If you read your boarding passes, boarding on most carriers ends :10 minutes before the scheduled departure. U.S. airlines routinely allow 30- to 40-minute connections for domestic flights. The airline will most assuredly not give your seat away to a standby passenger in this scenario. American Airlines has a 25-minute minimum connection time at Austin Airport. Even not having to switch terminals when going from an international flight to a domestic flight at JFK is going to take a bit of time. These standards vary by airport, and can also vary depending on the flight.. Will that get them through security quicker? When the flight is not cancelled or the length of delay is 90 minutes or less, a refund does not apply:. The minimum connection time varies by airport and type of connection (domestic to domestic or domestic to international, for example). As noted in the comments, the staff unfortunately pay the price of the poor planning. I see some other websites suggest this is the case, but your detailed description sounds like we can just walk from gate on upper level to gate on lower level. The shortest published time isn't necessarily going to pan out that way. Do you think will it be possible? Recently, I had a :36 minute connection time at LAX - :26 minutes if you factor when boarding ends. And behind me were another 25 Clearly you don't fly American because American rarely will hold a flight. Jet blue keeps changing our flight! Outside of banner ads published through the Boarding Area network, this compensation does not impact how and where products appear on this site. Why do airlines sell connections like this? What do you make of Americans 25-minute minimum connection time? Im asking partially bc we may try to meet a friend who happens to be staying nearby. Often, after booking, AA will change my outbound flights forcing a tight connection and I have to phone to change it back.

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