Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. 0000012438 00000 n Got an older Navy Arms Remington "Zouave" with barrel mfg. The company has used this mark since it produced its first reproduction, a Colt 1851 Navy, in 1959. this ? All the controls worked smoothly, and our range session was most pleasant. The first proof mark, which appears on all weapons produced in Italy since 1950, is a star within a wavy edged circle (I have seen this described as lands and grooves of rifling) above a crest in a shield. Mine is just as you described yours, except that between the lever and lifter screws on the bottom of the receiver is the familiar Uberti symbol, A "U" inside the muzzle end of an octagon barrel. The era of reproduction Western firearms began in the early 1950s when Val Forgett, of the American Navy Arms company, visited this area of Italy in search of a manufacturer who could make a copy of the Colt 1851 Navy revolver. We found all the controls to be smooth, including the loading gate at the front of the rifle. Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. The lever springs out of a Uberti 73 are the same as the ones one of this 22.I am thinking it is a Uberti but me thinking is not always a good thing. I am aware of the 1861 Whitney and the Spiller and Burr. 1860. The top tang of the action held the designation MOD. C.-{.-~Q~vVW?[.aMF^fV?4J/:50fb0L@w6l=lMaCFnO,ta#ip:xCr3A?Z[Hi6? 0000003864 00000 n Italian date stamps. However, a shoulder on the bullet will never help matters. Aldo Uberti S.r.l. any one know who manuf. What year would his have been made? 0000050889 00000 n I have a muzzleloading pistol with IGE on it and says Italy .44 cal. (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). Bore Condition:The bore is mostly bright with sharp rifling. Whilst the makers marks are there principally for advertising and recognition, the proof marks and serial number are obligatory and will always take the same form. Yes, that can be confusing, but we did like the 1860 Henry by the Italian maker better than we did the namesake brands gun. I have to disagree with Zonie just a bit. Reaction score. We'll start about there. Be sure to match the rifles caliber to that of your handguns as you ride off into the sunset to your next shooting match, just as they did in the Old West. 0000039439 00000 n Englishmen are not CITIZENS, they are SUBJECTS! Nit mine but it is just like this one in the link below. It was the earliest production of the .45 Colt model that I could find and wanted it in .45C to match my 1873 Colt single six. 22 HORNET". This is the black powder mark and will be found only on black powder weapons. The right side of the chamber is marked CAL. If you don't Facebook PM me the details of the rifle and I'll make sure he gets it. 0000001537 00000 n The National Weapons Catalog was introduced in Italy in 1975 and the number 1487 refers to the UBERTI MOD. Pietta always has the proofmarks and the datecode on the right side of the frame. There were no other markings on the rifle. There were no failures to feed, fire, or eject. Groups with the PMC averaged 2.3 inches at 50 yards off the bench. I pray for all on the wire and all that I shoot with.After this last fight with cancer that my wife and GOD and all of you that prayed for her.Things change your outlook some. 10) Uberti name and address stamping from 1975. H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} It has a brass frame, trigger guard and back strap, 1851 style -no top strap. Two more Rifle models come in the same chamberings (342370 in 44-40 and 342360 in 45 Colt) and have the same barrel lengths as the brass ones, but they display case-hardened frames and levers and blued buttplates and list for $30 more. They made two versions of the Colt 1855 sidehammer revolver, one in .31 calibre and the other in .36. In short, put the lever anywhere you want it during the loading process, and it will still take a full cycle of the lever to get the first round into the chamber. There are already a number of these fakes out there, just waiting for the unwary and uninformed, and there are those who would welcome the opportunity to provide even more. As with all previously owned firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards. HV{PTwjrh"1 fv] 0000003341 00000 n As a young boy I had the privilege of hunting rabbits with my great grandfathers Henry rifle that belonged to his father and now belonged gs to my Uncle. The largest market for these weapons is the U.S.A. and some of the larger American importers often have their own names stamped on the guns. Prior to 1975 ASM stamped the datecode in Roman numerals on the right side of the frame, along with the proofmarks. I can't find it through their pictures. I still adore my Uberti but my Henry Original is hands down the superior rifle of the two reproductions. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments I have a Palmetto leaflet somewhere and if memory serves me right there are photographs of a Colt 1860 Army and a Dragoon. Our impression was that this is how the 1860 Henry is supposed to look. Italy" is on the bottom of the barrels. 0000002293 00000 n 0000078548 00000 n I was born there LO these many years ago, but in 1977 I came to the United States, and have enjoyed FREEDOMS such as I never dreamed of as a British SUBJSCT! It will make a nice addition to any collection, especially as a companion gun to a rifle chambered for the same cartridge. 79 0 obj <>stream Our first glance at the Uberti test model was extremely satisfying. I have a black powder 58 cal riflr with the same cartouche is 3 "R's each inside the other. >RPo$Q2y4%TCpu352ji%:@"BHUSYX}n CQCY}B%I"T4~S-2 +{gzIE$Or}a;nY 98cjdi (1 D,)} 0000012277 00000 n It consists of the letters dp inside an oval and is usually followed by the name DAVIDE PEDERSOLI or PEDERSOLI. Any thought on the origin of this piece? The top of the barrel is marked A. In the picture below you can see first the year of manufacture "BM" indicating it was made in 1999. Eho is the manufacturer ? Barrel is marked "Navy Arms Ridgefield NJ - Italy" and the upper tang is marked "CAL 22 LR". And Dixie gun works Inc. On top of the breech area.?? The sights were identical to those found on the Henry Henry, the rear having all the same little cuts, holes, notch contours, elevation slide and markings as on the other rifle. 0000057470 00000 n Dear Friends, 0000004778 00000 n was founded in 1959 and has always used a capital U sur-rounded by an octagonal device, which is actually the muzzle of an 1851 Navy . Pre 60s? .22 Long Rifle" is marked twice around the circumference of the cylinder at the rear along with two proof marks. They are the earliest Navy Arms made. 0000003080 00000 n This is not one of the standard Pedersoli or Pietta proof marks, nor is it a Uberti proof mark. 0000057983 00000 n I have a black powder 6 shot revolver with no serial numbers, proof marks or name of manufacturer or importer. The Italian proof house has a book out called "100 anni di prove"/"100 years of proof" that shows this mark as belonging to a Sarezzo company called "Fusav di Bini & Baronio", founded Oct. 13, 1977, but I've got no other info on them. HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 Without seeing the pistols it is difficult to know exactly what they are. The chart will enable you to determine the date your gun was proved. Overall, the stocks are in Fine condition. 1) An example of a full set of Proof and makers marks on a Pedersoli pistol. 0000052548 00000 n serial # 7996. 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. It looks a lot like an Armi Sport pistol. It will come as no surprise then to find that the Italian Proof House is also in the valley. I have always wanted one of my own so about 12 years ago I purchased a Uberti 1860 Henry and absolutely loved it! ,!x#B3`Ev If you take the grips off there could be a mark on the brass underneath. I have .36 caliber 1851 navy model with the markings, black powder only made in Italy on the barrel and the 3 standardized proof house marks on the other side but I dont see any of the Italian makers marks, except for a name of HUBERTUS in a rectangular box. Model: . According to a web site this is the Italian date code for 1977. Italian proof mark is rather straight forward, normally one . In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal parts for the revolvers and Uberti assembled them. The right side of the frame is marked 04919. 0 Apart from a cursory glance I suppose many of you will have paid scant attention to the markings on your modern made black powder reproduction. As a result, the NRA is forced to restrict the sending of certain materials and information into California. The rifle had the caliber marked just behind the rear sight on top of the barrel as "45 COLT." The left side of the barrel had the importer's name and Uberti's name tastefully small. These revolvers are extremely collectible. It just seems that a little more care in their placement could result in more acceptability and perhaps more sales to the purists. I understand a lot of Navy Arms guns were not made by Uberti but by other Italian companies. Uberti set the standard for producing quality replica firearms by which all others are judged. We also tried, but did not record, Remington factory ammo and some handloads. The proof marks are described in Table 2. 3) Armi San Marco name stamp (1994) The wood finish is glossy and perfect. This includes not only information about their purchase and use, but also the promotion of firearm safety and training. 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The proof house marks and manufacturing code are stamped elsewhere on the gun. Some proof marks on side of frame and the roman numeral XX. z Sold ~ GREAT DEAL ~ First Year of Production Navy Arms, 1851 Navy Revolver. All the .44s (including the Phantoms) were in the range of 75918 to 75954 and all the .22s (except 75255) were in the range of 75955 to 75985. 0000012886 00000 n Our sample Uberti Yellow Boy rifle was very well made and finished. Model:Replica Remington Rolling Block Pistol, Year of Manufacture:1975, Italian date code AA, Action Type:Single-Shot Rolling-Block style Pistol with Extractor. Box 275, McGregor, IA 52157, ~ Ring Us at 563-873-2387 or TOll Free at 866-259-9172. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Pending. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. The walnut stock had some lovely tiger-striping in it that our photos might not pick up, and inletting was excellent. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Springfield Trapdoor Cartridge Rifle and Carbine was produced for the military in 1873. Once this unconstitutional law is struck down or repealed, this restriction will be removed. Its not as fast to reload as, say, a Winchester 1873, but it does hold lots of ammo. I copied this form the CAS City forum. The stocks have some light compressions, nicks and handling marks. Posted February 18, 2016. These are very scarce and near impossible to find in such fine original condition. Faithful Rendition. If thats not true and the dull case coloring offends you, rub the parts with cold blue and call it good. Copyright 2023 Aceville Publications Ltd. The magazine held 13 rounds, despite the manual saying it was 10. The Beretta family can trace their gunmaking roots in this region back almost five hundred years. Great find and it's worth preserving this very collectible piece. To our joy, the rifle had a decent trigger pull, 6.2 pounds and free of creep. stamping on the frame is CMC or CMG not clear. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. Mechanics:The action functions correctly. Aldo Uberti S.r.l. There have been few days since my arrival here in late 1977, that I have not carried a gun, either on my hip, or beneath my left armpit. This gun has no Italian proof marks and is not marked blackpowder only. Hb``a``=P @1630i`@GDTVs(R {g i 23>`.0,p?PA! 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