How much time is that? The idea is to. What do I need to do? All rights reserved. While the weapons selector is active the rockets cannot be fired by pressing the "Fire rocket" key, instead they must be fired by selecting them and pressing the "Fire secondary weapon" key. One more thing: I highly recommend that you guys check out these two videos below showcasing the system in the user mission. The idea is to take an absolute beginner and get them a basic level of competence in operating these weapons. As soon as the missile impacts, pull off immediately. If you still want step by step instructions (or if anyone needs them later on) here's what you have to do. IR missiles are the main WVRAAM used since the onset of missile technology in the early 1950s. How is one supposed to use the new AIM-9 missiles exactly? By However, SARH missiles have 3, with a slightly larger circle surrounding the seeker's head. The Sidewinder is rather poor at tracking and I don't remember having to wait 6 seconds to get a lock with either missile in DCS, but I guess that's off-topic here. Step 2: Launching the missile. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. IR missiles are great for short-range knife fights where you're manoeuvring to get in shot of the enemy. They tell you the following: Guidance: How the missile tracks its target, Aspect: What direction it can track a target from. Landing a clean shot on a difficult target. For jets you can probably fire a bit further if they have their exhaust pointed at you. Press lock-on button and 2 circles appear, I try to keep the target in the inner smaller circle and the beep beep beep converts into a long steady sound beeeeeeeeep (is that the lock-on confirmation?). Were the really Sparrows that bad when it came to ground clutter? I don't know if that is important but I am in Simulator Battles test flight mode. So, I just got my first top-tier which is the german Mig-21MF, and just barely got the first missiles which are the R3-S (through literal torture of a grind, as the cannon is useless on this thing). Even if you get close to your target, and I mean as close as a couple of hundred meters, there is significant drop of the rocket, just like the Tiny Tim, so aiming in SB is almost similar to using Tiny Tims. Tried it out, and it works. Sometimes the missile fails to track the target even when you get a lock, but I think you can't see that from cockpit view (the missile reticle wobbles every time you have a bad lock). The 20 mm cannon pod is the Phantom FGR.2's only primary weapon, so it is selected and marked with an ">", it can be fired by pressing the "Fire primary weapon" key. I think once I can be bothered, I'll just get rid of the "legacy" system and go to the weapon toggle and single button for weapon release, more realistic and fewer key binds. At that point, the horizontal distance the rocket travels is determined by its horizontal velocity alone: Now, we can set up an equation for horizontal distance: Once we know "T," we cancalculate how much the missile drops during this period. The default keybinds for manual missile guidance will prevent you from manoeuvring your aircraft with the keyboard at the same time. AB is a big mess: small maps with jets put into one place and "amazing" physics. Operational Method 2: TV-Guidance METHOD IS NOW DISABLED! PhlyDaily made avideo showcasinghow deadly this TV-guidance method is: One other attack strategy with using this missile system would be to launch it from the ground. This is the control which will fire your selected secondary weapon. Note that in-game these guidance systems might work differently than their respective real counterparts or the missiles might use a different guidance system than in reality. Most helicopters also feature a gunner view, in which the missile can be directed separately to the helicopter. Select Secondary Weapon (to get into the mode and cycle through): SHIFT + RMT Fire Secondary Weapon: RMT (outside of mode, I have it assigned to MGs) Exit Weapon Selection Mode: CTRL + RMT Best regards, Phil Report post Posted September 3, 2020 Try this. thank you so much. Still useless in my opinion still makes radar guided AA king of killing air either your diving at the target or flying over it only ways to use it you cant really track the target. The targeting device often features a significantly zoomed-in view which makes target acquisition easier. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. Avg. I don't know. This can also often be set to centre automatically on a designated point on the ground (the "sight stabilization" keybind), which accounts for the relative motion of the helicopter and maintains the image in the gunner view, thus allowing for smooth guidance of the missile even when the helicopter is performing extreme manoeuvres. I did exactly that, assigned one button to lock on and one to fire but nothing happens. Then, just circle the battlefield until you find a target, and then dive on him. I recommend you mess around with the controls to make it easier to control them: Some of the earliest AAMs post-WWII used to require manual aiming from the pilot to guide the missile into the target. So as you see, up to distances of about 1.5 km, you don't really have to lead the target that much. All you need to do then is just keep the missile on the enemy tank until it hits. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. How do I do this with the air to ground ? The user interface with the weapons selector enabled can be seen to the right. Your video looks like AB and I play sim only. all in all the implementation is quite well done and I could not find any contradiction with historic data I could find for it. Just pull off and set up another attack run. https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Weapons_selector&oldid=154106. Any Gs over this and the missile will simply not fire. Maximum overload during launch: Maximum Gs the aircraft can pull while the missile can still fire. Show more War Thunder 2012. These vehicles describe the jumbo syndrome better than the jumbo itself. Because certain weapons (like ATGMs) can only be fired by one of the crew members (e.g. Come on, get serious, why would there be a special lock on circle in gunners view just for the sidewinder as a bug??? You know how you can track bombs and rockets using the key "U" by default? At first, it's spooling up in the "PWR" (powering) mode and the smaller circle will blink slowly. Guiding the missile from a distance is almost impossible. Weapons selector mode is disabled, all four Sidewinder missiles must be fired before Skyflash missiles can be fired. When it does get disabled eventually, there will be those that say that the missiles are useless. I get the whole OP thing, remembering back to when the IS3 was released and literally quite impossible to pen effectively from the front and the havoc that ensued with the player base. I forgot to take into account the acceleration due to gravity. To use this method, start by approaching the battle zone at an altitude of about 2 km (1.24 mi/6562 ft). As such, they are more sensitive to temperature changes and so they can detect the IR radiation-emitting off all the surfaces of an aircraft. Essentially, a smart (or unskilled, depending on how you see it) pilot will simply hold "U" during the entire duration of the missile's flight, and use it to TV-guide the missile directly to the target. What the hell. You need to assign a button not only to "Select Secondary Weapon" but also "Fire Secondary Weapon" as when you're in Weapon Selection Mode, it overrides your normal fire button and looks instead for what button you assigned to "Fire Secondary Weapon". It might take a bit of practice, but once you have it mastered, you're good to go! In case you haven't figured it out, that's how it's supposed to work. Default activation of the weapons selector mode at the start of a mission can be enabled in the options menu. As there are multiple types of air-to-air missile available (AIM-9G Sidewinders and Skyflashes), the name of the selected weapon has been displayed. There are 2 main types of IR missiles: Rear-aspect - These are more basic IR AAMs that use a passively-cooled seeker head to detect and track an aircraft's heat. My options basically make your PS4 controller a Model Airplane controller. Go to the dollar store and buy a can of computer cleaner and spray the shit out of your console. The weapons selector is extremely useful for aircraft which carry a combination of different air-to-air missiles (for example the F-4 Phantom or Mirage IIIC), as the different missiles are optimized for different uses, and without the weapons selector it is not possible to choose which type of missile will be fired. you have no idea how long it took to find this information. Ok don't worry figured it out you need to assign a key to switch weapons, and a separate to "exit" the weapon select mode yikes thats dumb. The problem with trying to engage at close range is that doing so will put the Apache in huge amounts of danger. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. MCLOS missiles require additional controls since they are player-guided. This new system really doesn't adhere to the KISS principle. Unlike later missiles, they can't home in on something like the heat of the friction on the front of an aircraft. This page was last edited on 7 February 2023, at 10:16. You're in luck; during the grinding period of the event, several community CDK data miners and mission makers managed to create a user mission with the AGM-12B Bullpup mechanics and get it working. Then, just guide the missile to the target. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The missile will guide itself towards the target, leaving the pilot free to manoeuvre the aircraft and evade any anti-air defences. When the weapons selector is activated all other weapon controls are disabled, this means that (for the example to the right) the Phantom's bombs cannot be dropped using their normal key bind. that's it? And then even when it's growling at least 50% of the time it still doesn't lock (this is at less than 3km usually, and the maximum range is supposedly 4km). In War Thunder, television-guided missiles refer to a class of missile guided by "optical contrast seekers". IR missiles only have 1 circle if they have a caged seeker, and 2 if they do not. Air-to-ground missiles (AGMs) were added to the game in Update 1.79 "Project X" with the AGM-12B Bullpup. Operational Method 3: Unguided strikes, ________________________________________________________________________. The missile would not fire in gunners view, I filed a bug report about it. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. Beam riding missiles are operated using a radar or laser beam to guide them to the target. Why would you get a lock in one view and fire in a different view??? In the example below, the Spitfire Mk IIb has both 7.7 mm machine guns and 20 mm cannons. After you've got that down, the rest is just practice. To obtain the best results using this method, climb to an altitude of at least 3 km (1.86 mi), out of SPAAG range, and a higher altitude then most aircraft spawn in. SARH missiles are great for long-distance engagements of an enemy well out of the range of their more agile dogfight missiles, where depending on your piloting skill and aircraft performance, maybe an area you want to avoid. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Take those both into 8.3 and 9.0 respectively and tell me what you think. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Big shout out to @Gallonmate, @RideR2, and @Iron_physikfor making this mission possible. Learn how your comment data is processed. The maximum range of the missile can be seen in the lower part of the view, in the example it is 3,500 m, and the bigger bar below it shows the range of the currently aimed point. So then, when do you launch the missile? Flares are infrared countermeasures fired off by aircraft to counter infrared homing (heat-seeking) missiles. Several different types of AGMs exist: Manual Command to Line of Sight (MCLOS) also known as command guided, Semi Automatic Command to Line of Sight (SACLOS), Television guided (TV), Infrared guided (IR), Laser guided, and Beam riding. Some more advanced helicopters have the additional option of locking the stabilized sight to a moving target, thus allowing semi-autonomous guidance of the missile. Do I have to switch to another view? I found a workaround anyway, I lock on in gunner's view and fire in normal view.. Most aircraft able to carry SARH missiles can carry IR missiles too, so press "Switch between primary weapons" to toggle between your heatseekers and radar guides. The missile then corrects itself to stay in the centre of the beam. You can easily reproduce the issue in Simulator Test Flight. Avg. When the missile is ready and looking for a target in the "ACQ" (acquisition) mode, the circle will blink faster and sound a tone. sniperNZSAS, September 3, 2020 in General Discussion. The weapon quantity is listed as "8/4": the first number indicates that there are eight air-to-air missiles currently fitted to the aircraft, of which four are Skyflashes (the other four being AIM-9Gs). Have you also assigned firing the missile to the correct command? Read this section carefully, improperly setting up the weapons selector can lead to the inability to use any weapons. Once we know T, we candetermine the distance of the aircraft from the target at the moment of launch: Where D = the distance of the aircraft from the target at the moment of launch. 2.) Its RB. I get that, but when I click Alt+X I only see the circle for a second. https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/366038188371661779. Remember, you're aircraft will be mostly traveling in a straight line while you're guiding the missile, making you easy food. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. 2. The first of this type of weapon were used in the Vietnam War. They'll give you a general idea and grasp behind each of the methods I'm going to talk about: This method of use will most likely be the standard method to use the missile once the method 2 is disabled (which will happenmark my words). The seeker's head detects the emitted radar waves bouncing off the target and follows the detection to track the target. Launch range: Maximum range that the missile can travel before self-detonation. If go into the missile aiming view (with the green reticle), at the bottom of the screen you can see a green square with a smaller green square inside it. When an air-to-air missile is selected, pressing the "Fire secondary weapon" key once will activate the seeker, and a second time will fire the missile. It was believed during the Cold War that the days of dogfighting with guns were over, and so missiles soon became the dominant weapon type. Privacy Policy. Before going any further, I'd just like to clarify that this missile system is ONLY used on the FJ-4B VMF 232 that was offered during the Operation S.U.M.M.E.R. Since the missile reaches it's top speed of 600 m/s after engine burnout, we can calculate the distance at which the missile flies relatively straight with little drop. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. It's only much harder since you don't get a visual representation of the seeker at work. It annoys me that guns don't override weapon select, I had one situation where a Sidewinder didn't follow my target, but I couldn't use guns since I was still in weapon select and by the time I realised this and turned it off I had overshot. If there is more than one secondary weapon of the same type (e.g. We've learnt about the 4 different types - how they work, how to fire them, and how to best use each of them. Powered by Invision Community. Weapons selector mode is enabled, only the cannons are being fired by the "Fire primary weapon" key. Not the max range in practice - just the full distance it can travel. Weapons selector mode is enabled, with AIM-9G Sidewinders selected. Afaik RB and SB share the same missile physics and mechanics. Twitter : https://twitter.com/TimsVarietyFacebook : https://www.facebook.com/TimsVarietyGaming/Twitch : https://www.twitch.tv/timsvariety==============================Mig-25 line art by Kaboldy, Used under Creative CommonsUncaged IR Seeker clip by M. Begenat, Used under Creative CommonsTIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro And Keybinds01:39 Types Of Missiles03:29 Reading A Missile Stat Card05:03 Range And Energy06:57 MCLOS Manual Command Line Of Sight Missiles08:20 SACLOS Beam Riding Missiles09:47 Caged-Seeker IR Guided Missiles11:32 Uncaged-Seeker IR Guided Missiles14:06 SARH Semi Active Radar Homing Missiles17:04 ARH Active Radar Homing (Plus IOG and DL)22:18 Weapon Selection And Cycling22:56 Missing Advanced Features, Closing Minutia You should leave these untouched if you have already set them up. Some planes and AGMs however have IR or thermal imaging and can be used at night and have better targeting quality. Weapons selector mode is enabled, only the machine guns are being fired by the "Fire primary weapon" key. 4. Granted, it will take more practice and player skill to be successful, but ifyou masterOperational Method 1,you can still be just as effective at long ranges. that is your launch window. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. On ps4 it's a combo (l2 & r1, I think), si may be it's a combo on xbox? The centreline 500 lb bomb is selected. That was only once. 1. chillobreeki 2 yr. ago. On 03/09/2020 at 13:37, Southernbear said: 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. It will help 100%. The bombs can now be dropped. Assuming that the acceleration due to gravity in the game is like that of the earth (-9.8 m/s^2), we can calculate the drop of the missile over this time period as follows: Where DV= the vertical drop (and hence the vertical lead)andT = equals the elapsed time since missile launch. After using the above control to fire the missile (MCLOS & SACLOS missiles don't spool up), guide it in with the following. Each type of weapon can have its own key bind. This method is for the more aggressive among you guys that are used to the traditional unguidedrocket strikes. Once launched, the missile will attempt to keep itself in the centre of the beam that is projected out from the launch platform. Here is what I am doing step by step: What is wrong? Removing the camera view is just one of these. First and foremost, I'd like to congratulate you on managing to acquire the S.U.M.M.E.R. The game is based around combined arms battles on air, land, and sea with vehicles from the Great War to today. Infrared homing missiles are similar in use to TV guided missiles, but feature an infrared imaging system instead of the optical camera, allowing heat sources (such as tanks) to be more easily differentiated and locked onto in cluttered environments and under low optical visibility conditions such as night-time. Only the ATGM cursor. With the exception of self-guiding missiles, all helicopter-launched air-to-ground missiles are guided by the cursor (much like aircraft SACLOS missiles). Select Secondary Weapon (to get into the mode and cycle through): SHIFT + RMT, Fire Secondary Weapon: RMT (outside of mode, I have it assigned to MGs). I still have buttons set for MGs and cannons, since I find that useful for mixed armament aircraft. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. First-generation jets such as the F-86 Sabre and MiG-17 were soon equipped with very primitive missiles, though development quickly advanced into this new niche of air combat and missiles diversified into many distinct types during the Cold War as the aircraft alongside them advanced, such as the F-4 Phantom II or MiG-23. It's way too overpowered and easy to use. These are the keys you will use to cycle through your primary and secondary weapons, so bind them to something which will be accessible during flight. On the Hinds you can keep the target right on the crosshairs to get a lock, but for some weird reason the reticle isn't lined up with the HUD on the Viper. This is particularly useful for aircraft with . JFG80, December 18, 2018 in Helicopters Academy. I recommend you only fire when your target is slow, travelling fairly straight, not turning as hard as it can (though if it's doing this vertically it will bleed energy and that's a great time to fire) and when your seeker isn't on the edges of its gimbal track, as it will easily lose guidance while you're still finding a lock. Another use for the weapons selector is choosing which bombs to drop for aircraft with multiple bombs. Your email address will not be published. Because your radar is pointing forwards, you essentially guide the missile by pointing your aircraft directly at the target. BUT. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. I've re-assigned by "fire air-to-air missile" key and it still doesn't fire. In the case of wire-guided missiles, the wire is unspun from the missile as it flies towards the target. There is no little white text at the bottom when firing it! In the example below, the Phantom FGR.2 is carrying four Skyflashes, four AIM-9G Sidewinders, two 1,000 lb bombs, three 540 lb bombs, and SNEB rockets. Just keep the target in the smaller inner circle, once you have a lock, change to normal cockpit view and fire. If I screwed up badly, however, post your evidence and proof, and I'll correct my calculations accordingly. But, Gaijin's old MO used to be to allow the players that earned said vehicles around a month before they would implement nerfs so they could at least enjoy their hard earned vehicles for that period. Pubis (Banned) Mar 12, 2019 @ 3:02pm. Maximum speed: Top speed of the missile during flight. At first, it's spooling up in the "PWR" (powering) mode and the smaller circle will blink slowly. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. In real life they lock on a target and follow heat sources. The bombs and rockets can be used independent of the missiles. I'll make sure to do that next time I log in. Hi, since there's no way to testflight drones, maybe someone around here can help me Do you notice that when you go to camera view there is 1 small little box at the middle? Hence they are all-aspect - they can detect and track an aircraft from any direction. (default key: space). Today, I'm going to share a few tips that will help you become extremely lethal with the AGM-12B Bullpup missile, which was introduced into the game during the second part of the 2018 Operation S.U.M.M.E.R. Once you're at the optimal launch position, launch the missile and, before guiding it, move your aircraft either slightly above or to the side of the smoke trail so that you can actually see the missile. Combining everything into one equation, we have: TL= (8250-((Va)((4000/(479-Va)))+4000)/(Va). Just look at my bug report (documented bug reports), there is a video which shows exactly what I am doing. Writer for EverythingWarThunder and owner of the 23rd Ghost Army historical battles group. With the weapons selector active, bombs cannot be dropped independently of the missiles, and must be selected in order to be dropped. Finally, bind the "Exit selected weapon mode" control, this will restore the weapon controls mode to the standard mode.

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