I have both Cheetah and an LCP (with an upgraded trigger) and carry the LCP often for those reasons. A review of .380s and no mention at all of Springfield's excellent 911? Both are easy to carry and both shoot well. I have the Springfield 911 and that gun is amazing compact good grouping lightweight are amazing. LCP is a JAM-O-MATIC that I wouldnt trust my life to. The SIg will fire Plus P with no issues (although, the added pressure will wear out the inner parts much faster). And in a .380, what's working for me might not work in someone else's pistol. Kahr CW380 10. We had one jam with my initial reload recipe, since corrected. (I suggest PPT check it out as well.). The 'P' series has a Lothar Walther match barrel - the thing is ridiculously accurate! Great article--wishing I had spotted it before purchasing my Kahr P380 which pricewise is above everything on this list. Considering that just showing a gun is going to stop most altercations, a shot, hit or not, is going to stop most of the rest and a hit will stop pretty much all the rest, stopping power is overrated. Quite accurate, too. That thing is a piece of garbage. Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 380 EZ 3. It has never been a problem. I'll be reviewing one soon, so keep an eye out! For me, it is the Mercedes Benz of hand guns. It's hard to find something online, as almost everyone is talking about JP/JHP rounds. Easily the best .380 weapon out there in terms of cost, reliability, features & looks. (Even the slightly easier to carry 3" barrel models can provide fairly similar figures.) The Cheetah is a beautifully machined, built, and solid firearm. The new LCP II is single action only unlike the other 2, "ole reliable" would shoot barbed wire if would cycle. I would suggest if you plan to carry any mini handgun try to get a mini version of the full size pistol you use in order to avoid learning another system. A design that has been manufactured for 91 years! Here's a plug for a very specific P238, from a very specific source. pretty sweet passive aggresive comment there. So, .380 will do the job. I had to go with the .380 for health reasons. I can say I have spent a lot of time, effort, etc on my 380 quest. "They get the job done, but several shots may need to be fired to get your point across." Did they succeed? Hi Chuck-I was thinking the exact same thing in regards to the trigger. Try it, youll like it. TNP Main. I don't know why it keeps appearing in these 380 pocket lists, must be advertising? It just falls into your pocket. 2) Glock 42 I can't believe they left one of the best, if not THE best .380 on the market, The Beretta Pico. It was a tough choice initially between the Sig 938 and the Kahr CM9, but the Kahr had a great trigger, no safety to worry about and the 1st shot speed and confidence this DAO provides. 1. IMHO the trigger is much smoother and easier to use with a lighter pull than the original LCP or the S&W Bodyguard .380 I was comparing. The Remora works great! Ruger LCP Max 2. Snappy but controllable and also pretty accurate for the size. hand and it works well for me. After running a few boxes through the Detonics for function and selection of new ammo, I find I am able to put 5 into 5 at 5 with about six seconds not feeling rushed. I have the Scorpion model, and it shoots to point of aim. They are built super sleek, appear as if they were designed in a wind tunnel. Now mind you I am only comparing 380s. hands down. To the point of I wish these two models didnt even exist. What do you think about the Beretta Pico? I enjoy the look of this little pistol and it fits my hand well. I do like the safety feature. I highly recommend it. Your mileage may vary. And like many of us, we have/or have had a bunch of weapons..some very nice..and some inexpensive. However, in the .380 you are missing the very best of them. I do not feel under gunned when carrying either gun. I "HAD" 2 kel-tec 380's (both garbage). It was to replace my LCP. I do not own one, friends do. I recently purchased the Kahr after reading this article, and many others. I have 2 pistols in .380acp. The ballistics testing of some of the newer Plus P ammo from Buffalo Bore and Underwood put the 380 round pretty close to regular 9mm ammo. And can add night sights easily. The trigger pull is hard, very similar to a revolver, but on a pocket gun that is a good thing that won't affect me if I have to use it plus I practice with it all the time. I am a little surprised that the Walther PK380 was not mentioned. It's tough growing old, but it does beat the alternative. Great gun. The 4th was picked out by my wife for her ccw. A .410 is barely an excuse for a shotgun, and should never be used when a 12 or 20 gauge is called for. It is a little heavier but the recoil is super manageable. - It's cheaper and has much more capacity than the Sig P238, the Kahr CW or the Ruger LCPII Just like the crazies that are carrying guns illegally and using them criminally. Sucks to hear about the pickiness of the P380. Peepew tends ro regurgitate older reviews and most likely the Sig wasn't available when the review was conducted. Best ergonomics, even for those with larger hands. Check out our Best Places to Buy Ammo Online or jump straight to .380 ACP self-defense rounds. Glock 42 5. I like the feel and dependability of the Glock 42. I think the human interface of the grip and trigger is different with each individual shooter. Less than an inch wide, polymer frame, striker fired. A lifetime warranty you will probably never use is yet another reason you might be sorry you didn't consider a FireStorm, if you're interested in a nice 380. The problems: 1, Mag wouldn't load properly. I know snobs won't like it, be I do. You need to know that your ammo of choice works in your gun of choice. The ability to shoot through car doors is a significantly lower level of concern than the hazards of over-penetration. We carry a variety of popular models from leading manufacturers including Smith and Wesson, SIG Sauer, and Glock. I have no issues at all deactivating the safety. The only aspect that has been overcome, is in the weight, and this is a debatable aspect, as you very well point out, as commented on the benefits of the Sig Sauer 238, for being all metal. After performing an in-depth review on one, I found that certain types of ammo didnt cycle properly, to include steel cased, some hollow points, and really high-end self-defense ammo (Lehigh Defense). Because your firearm is potentiallypointed at your junk! My groups are much, much smaller now. Check out his new firearms site. Other firearm owners have made a choice to carry a gun. But the omission is glaring. While I dont personally own one, Ive fired my fair share and can say that they are reliable and accurate. I LOVE mine and I'm very proficient with it.. Its not a subcompact pistol, but its much easier to shoot than a subcompact. Thanks very informative article . Hey Ralph, that's great to hear. I had no images on Chrome, but Firefox was fine. And I have the Sig Sauer p238 (IMO) the KING of the small 380's. Many people place a little too much emphasis on caliber and many are not proficient with their "Big Guns". Check out our full review of the Bodyguard .380 ACP. Never felt undergunned and to this day it remains the most accurate gun on my modest collection (<1" groups at 25'). My PPK/S is accurate enough to shoot snakes from a "safe" distance. Good trigger, too. I have read alot of bad about the Taurus TCP 738 but I love mine and at $239 and reliable as heck with the fix I did it"s alot cheaper than the top 5 in this article, not trying to take anything away from the top 5 or anyones personal choices.. Kimber Micro .380ACP TLE I'm liking it a lot. It always feeds, fires and ejects regardless of what ammo I feed through it. I fired over 500 rounds through my Sig using dozens of different ammo and it NEVER gave me an issue. So if you like Critical Defense ammo (with the red polymer plug), get the LCP, it works GREAT and EVERY time. Josh is a gun writer with several years of experience, who has devoted his life to teaching people about firearms, while continuing to learn himself. When you see a list of the Best .380s and the Beretta Cheetah is not on it there is something disingenuous going on. is superior in these pocket .380 pistols because they tend to penetrate further. I've shot thousands of rounds through it and truly can't recall a FTE or FTF ever. It also smooths out the trigger and, more importantly, loosens up the slide so it's easy to rack. Great reviews, here 's my 2 cents. I have nothing bad to say about it except it feels cheaper than the others. I have a Bersa 383 DA I have carried for over 30 years. Particularly the compact model is a really nice-shooting pistol that is light enough and small enough for concealed carry. Para defensa bala semiwatcutter con penetrador. A .380 pistol will generally produce around 160 to 200-foot pounds of energy at a muzzle while a compact 9mm pistol produces about 280 to 320-foot pounds of muzzle energy. I usually carry pistols in these calibers, .380, 9mm, and .45. I have a S&W M&P9 and a S&W Shield so was leaning toward the Bodyguard, but its trigger is unbelievably heavy, so heavy I could barely get it pulled. If it doesn't, it suggests it is your grip. While the shotshells were fine for small game, I cannot image them being the least suited for self-defense. There are nines Id rather carry for self defense but as 380s go Bersa is top of the line. Thank's David! My first handgun I ever purchased was a Bersa Thunder 380 standard capacity, 7+1. Go to a gun store and check out the pocket pistols. With the right holster, it's a safe and comfortable pocket pistol. Seems like The Duke is forgetting that old and factual adage- when seconds count, LE is minutes away. Haven't tried the new Ruger. That said, I will continue to practice my tap-rack-bang exerciseseven with a Glock. I really like mine, small and compact. I have a micro 9 and an ultra carry ii .45 and both are very reliable and groups are good. It, and my .38 special, are my everyday carries, over a 9mm and a .357, sometimes, depending where I'm going, I'll carry both. This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. Its design has not been changed and it is manufactured the same as almost a century ago, because it is exceptionally good and very well made. .380 guns tend to conceal better than many others out there on the market. the gun, 7 rounds& the colt laser sight weigh in at 17 once . I sold my Ruger LCP (original model) and bought the Glock 42. purchase helps support my work in bringing you more awesome gun and gear articles. Page Back Page Next. I think it is the best pocket ccw out there load it with the all copper Underwood self defense ammo and the lethality of the round will compare with a traditional lead 9 mm, which is the best of all possible worlds for cc. Youre the biggest liability and should resign or be fired immediately for your comment as you are a clear and present danger to the public you are supposed to serve. It's worth a look. The original Ruger LCP has been perhaps the most well-known and popular .380 pocket pistol since it was first introduced in 2008. I even carry it sometime in my pocket as back up to my Glock 17 which I should say it way sweeet (the 17). I really like it because it's all metal and so dampens the recoil. After several hundreds rounds I am confident the conversion is reliable in my gun. All in all, I wouldn't trade it for anything of its type! Technically, it's against policy for us to carry on the boo boo bus and if I ever have to use it, I will lose my job. Don't need that. The trigger just takes a lot of practice to get right. But honestly, I don't even know if I trust it to do that. I was worried seeing a lot of internet Kimber slamming between the time I bought the pistol and the time I had a chance to run it. With practice and qualifications I have shot 1,000 rounds and had no issues. And with such a tiny increment in size & weight, the Max capacity gives it the nod over the II. Ruger LCP Max 380 ACP Pistol 4. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. It goes on for miles and catches me off guard every time I go for more than a short time without firing it. Model D serial numbers started with the characters "CPA". of this gun and not all were winners. Great little pistol that I think is worth a mention, thanks. The CPX3 has 10+1 capacity which trumps every single gun done in this review. Great in pocket holster or ankle holster. light, affordable, easy to master.see where I am going in a real BUG situation.one where you aren't looking to tangle but, with that much ammo you could pin down a group 2X larger or more if necessary out to a maaaaybe 125 yards effectively??? Amazing. ESTE ES UN TEMA QUE NO EST TRATADO EN EL ARTICULO: LA PRECISION !!! And when you want the BEST .380 possible, carry a Walther PPK/S. [Moving from "safe" to "fire" with a shooting grip is no problem, so I consider this more gripe than fail.]. Thanks for your detailed review of the Pico! I dress then chose a pistol from my collection that fits concealed with the most stopping power. Won't go wrong with the Sig, the Real gun, Besides it last long enough to pass to your grandkids . the plastic won't. I think a good one for the list would be the Remington rm380. Thanks for getting the Bersa Thunder 380 on the list. We can learn from trying different stances, but none is perfect or "THE" answer. I don't care for the whole 1911 thing, I'd rather have a single or double action striker but this P238 is amazing. I have read conflicting reports about it. Check out our full review of its 9mm brotherthe CW9. If I could find my wife a SC 9mm that she felt as comfortable shooting as the P238, I"d dump the .380 round altogether for reliability of avail firearm issues though and not because it's a "puny" round. The PPK/S is heavy in the pocket, making it a poor choice for lightweight pants. Thank you for the info. I, and my brother both have a Kahr CW380. Conceal carry at my size seems almost impossible. Love mine. Bersa never gets the credit it deserves. I wouldn't discount the veracity of a small, low-recoiling cartridge for two reasons: One, there are people who are better suited to very low-recoiling firearms, not necessarily children or the elderly, and a .410 is probably the most prolific low-recoil shotshell south of the 20, and Two, they can still kill you or me or many a beast on this earth. Well done and VERY informative! My favorite carry firearm is my Kahr P380. Not good. This makes me nervous so Ive always sought help to clear the chambered bullet but now I know what to do! The Bersa .380 takes the classic, proven design of the PPK and pluses it up a bit with some modern features like a slide hold open and a decocker/safety. Just wanted to say, I own 4 different caliber Taurus pistols and I am very satisfied with my 357 mag, 1911 Commander 45 acp, and 38 special. I bought it because it looks so much like the Walther PPK. I am a firearm owner and I have made a choice not to carry a gun. This is why its so important for people to choose the right gun/caliber combination. I don't need to make a case for it, it speaks for itself as most will know. Its always in a secure IWB or OWB holster. I found that carrying it on your waist with the extended mag was slightly annoying as it is very long. Just enough meat on it to feel right and give you something to hold on to, but still in a sub-compact footprint for CCW. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches it's easy to conceal even under light clothing. That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. I carry a 3" folder, but not a Bowie. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. The picture captioned "Handgun Caliber Smallest to Largest", that you used twice, isn't even close. I've been armed for over 50 years on a daily basis. That's why your comment on the necessity of range time with your carry ammo is dead on the money. And the Walther PP Gun was the first gun in the history of weapons that the decocker / security introduced. So what are the best 380 ACP pistols and where can you buy yours? I was carrying a Kruger 357 mag short barrel ed I am a big guy Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. I have a Beretta 9 mm Storm carbine, and it's quality really impresses me. You have to get it from Palmetto State Armory. I trust both. It is also ergonomically correct and comfortable with the mag with the pinky extension. So I trade off a couple of rounds and a little fire power in order to have the gun with me more often rather than back home in the safe. Then you'd love the Bersa Thunder Plus .380 that holds 15+1. Page. They run like sewing machines. The AMT has a small finger hook at the bottom that helps with recoil. Small, light, and I only paid $232.99 for it? All the .380s are snappy & regardless of how I adjust my grip, they all give me varying degrees of "trigger bite", leaving my trigger finger sore after shooting. No love for Springfield 911? If it's something that's stuffed in my pocket, I want to make sure firing it is as intentional as possible. Amazing. The 380 is in between the 22/25 pocket pistols and the 38spc/9mm sub compacts. The 938 goes in a hip holster, condition one, with a 7 round spare mag. I think you may have been thinking of the original LCP.. The second thought is all-inclusive and says carry whatever you can handle comfortably enough to prevent someone else from taking your life. Don't waste your time with this gun. Excellent review. Small, sleek, thin, no snag points on it, mostly all metal. Its also a sleek, well built little pistol with no rough protrusions that virtually disappears in your pocket. Its not a range gun, and should not be treated as such. Otherwise, I REALLY like the bodyguard and would feel 95% to 99% comfortable with it. It had a single-stack magazine and a large thumb cut-out in the base of the frame, to supposedly make magazine removal easier. Other places have it, online, for near that price, maybe at that price if you look harder than I just did, but I've not seen one for less. I'm not saying that there is any problem with a 380, but people shouldn't be swayed to a smaller firearm if a larger one suits their needs. Remington 380. I really like the feel of it but am debating between it and the LCP II. I think it came out right around the time of your article so why didn't you list it? You can wear your bathing suit anywhere and feel pretty safe with your gun not being noticed at all. I find it scary anyone encouraging someone to Cary a gun right or no right. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. It's the bullet that hits the bad guy, not the gun. Extra patience is necessary at the moment since the 12 is temporarily out of stock (other 238's are in stock but at much higher prices). I'm a 65 yr old novice and it only required 30 seconds to select LCP 2. She wiped it off loaded it with critical defense and kinda politely sneered at my Remington. You say the LCP2 has a long stiff trigger not true the first gen LCP did the LCP2 are one of the best triggers available on a 380 hadgun. I even saw lint and crap in there when I went to the range. The .45ACP pushes harder, the .380ACP is a bit sharper, but with one in a heavy gun (31oz empty) and the other in a light gun (16oz loaded) they handle very similarly. The "other" gun will show before this one let's put it that way. What I didn't like about it is the double-action trigger; by the time you get it pulled, you've probably pulled way off target in a crisis situation. I have put a thousand rounds of all kinds into these beauts and only 2 FTFs. I've carried a Bersa Thunder for years. It has a longer mag for those of us with larger hands, built in Crimson Trace laser grips, will shoot any ammo you put through it, the fact that it is a hammer fired pistol it eliminates the trigger pull issue that some of the others have, it also has a metal frame and slide, and it looks great(not that that's important, just an added bonus). I didn't even know that there was a gen two! One is a KelTec P3AT, very small pocket gun, and I have a CZ83 in .380acp which is the finest .380 I have ever fired. It weighs just over 10 ounces with a barrel length of 2.5 inches. The Glock doesn't fall into my "favorite" handgun catagory of the pistols I own or have owned but I have never had a failure to feed or failure to eject nor have I seen a FTF or FTE at the qualifications rangeno, that's not trueone time during qualifications, a new officer was having FTE's with her issued Glock. With a tight grip, you can get v. tight groups at 15 - 20 feet. I carry it cocked and locked. BATTLE OF THE RUGER .380S: LCP VS. LCP II. At first I thought it was an older model that was being closed out, but it may be more likely it's an exclusive production run for some of these sellers. The short lived Sig P250 in .380 is my favorite. Your article stated that the Kahr 380 was the smallest 380. This gun is amazing and feeds/extracts EVERY ammo I give it. (Makes the "Judge" seem crude by comparison!). Bad move! I picked the Bersa Thunder because it's easier for me to hold it out straight longer. Really??? Check Price. I can say that the ones Ive fired were picky about the type of ammo they shoot. Heavy take down pin, Double strike capable. You get two shots, a single-action-only trigger, teeny tiny grips, and super short barrels. The trigger pull on most .380 autos is. It may be slightly larger than the pocket models, but I prefer my 7+1 Bersa Thunder 380 for concealment, great hand fit, trigger, & DA/SA with decocker. It's fine for that. Semper Fi, Glad to hear it working out for you, Guy! A Bryco Arms .380 such as this has resulted in more than 1 accidental death due to their defective design (Photo: Guns.com) These cheap pot metal guns are small, and available in a variety of calibers. I picked up five loads for function testing from those showing good terminal ballistics at Lucky Gunner 1st round of Win White Box failed to chamber a couple times off the top of the 1st magazine; I hit the magazine release by accident on the 2nd magazine; no other function problems yet with a variety of useful loads FMJ-RN, JHP-RN, and JHP-truncated cone. Ruger sought out to remedy much of these problems with the LCP II. Another point: I have been working on the Center Axis Relock shooting stance. The RM-380 is the easiest to rack of those I own and the Kahr CW-380 the hardest. I have carried and shot many many rounds through both my LCP 2 and my sig P238. It's oh so slightly bigger (barely) than a Glock 42. Sent it in to Ruger and they fixed it. No they didnt-same problem. Carries 7+1, decocked and hammer down, great SA, eats any brand ammo. Model D, based on a Star design that goes back to the 1920's. The Sig has a more "boxy" feeling to the slide, whereas the Kimber's slide is more "melted" along the edges, making for a more comfortable pistol for all day carry. I love my Sig P238 so much that I bought another one (in a slightly different "flavor") for my Wife. I completely agree with your #1 pick. And help you choose the best .380 ACP pistol for self-defense and concealed carry. Things go bad fast and I want to go home at the end of my shift. I didn't see any mention of this pistol here. Re: Glock 42 and Sig P238 glock but too big to carry,, traded for glock 42,, excellent patterns at 25 and 50 feet,,at range yesterday,, over 200 rounds,, use the precision on ammo plus p,, called them,, they said this best ammo out there ,, 12 inch penetration with 1/2 in hole,, you right,, if you don't hav it you can't use it.,,also bought finger extension on magazine and haugh grips,, excellent helpers and made patterns alot better. Hot cases! Hundreds if not thousands of police in the United States choose to carry a Walther PPK / S as a CCW, as an out-of-service weapon or as a second backup weapon. Don't make me reach for what you might think is my wallet. You missed It in your review but it is mechanically similar, but smaller than the non CC (conceal carry) model. Different primers some Full Metal Jacket some hollow points. I like my RM380. For example the Sig is not accurate for me. It's also a useless piece of crap. Why? I am a Pocket gun enthusiast that has been shooting these guns almost weekly for 10yrs. I get that it's so expensive, but I tell you, it WILL the best investment you'll will ever make!!! 6 I get the guys who work at the range to clear the gun, took a FULL five minutes, he fires two rounds and I tell him to take the gun back, I won't fire it again. You left of far and away the best .380 on the market the Springfield 911, best of the bunch as far as recoil and a beautiful gun optically, sights are top of the line right out of the box. In fact this Model 1911A 380 is just a smaller version with all parts being virtually identical. "When I put two in your chest an one in your forehead, you'll never know the difference.". Has Excellent sights (tritium) and safety and did I mention, it's a real gun, not some plastic wannabe. While I'd agree that we've never had a better selection of ammunition for the .380 ACP, and that it is a viable alternative to a .38 Special snub gun, the .38 Special really deserves to compared to the 9 mm Parabellum. One of the best concealed weapons out there is the 380 pistol. Unfortunately, each of these pistols and others in their class suffer from a number of serious flaws. Beretta Pico: Worst .380 In the World?! It recently was retired to my safe in favor of the Glock 42. 1 jam in the UC ii and 0 in the micro 9 both with 500 rounds through. Bottom line is I would put my life in the hands of either one of the three guns mentioned. I got the ruger lcp. Rented an LCP II this weekend. In a firefight, should you ever find yourself in one, you may not get it off in time. It takes an attacker 1.5 seconds to reach you from 21 feet. I currently own 4 .380 pistols. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. I'm surprised that you didn't even mention the Browning Black Label 1911-380! My Bodyguard did have a few issues with Hornady Civil Defense ammo but Federal HST 99 grain JHP has been off the charts in accuracy and reliability. Both serve me well. Once for a broken firing pin then again for a broken laser. My son bought one, I shot it once, sold my LCP and bought the S&W EZ! The only real way to know for certain how a gun is going to handle is to shoot it before you buy it. (I preferred to use it on woodchucks, however, out to 100 yards, with a good Leupold scope and a .22 Hornet barrel.) Worth a shot! I appreciate the tip! Some of the results of this study show that rifles and shotguns are very effective (duh!) A blowback action is going to kick the most of all, followed by a partially locked (or, as they say nowadays, a modified Browning lock-up) breech; and, the lightest recoiling pistol is invariably one that employs a locked breech. The Sig comes with a 6-round magazine, but Sig also makes a 7-rounder for the P238, so you could carry 7 + 1 if willing to carry it cocked and locked. I could almost copy and paste Petes review of the LCPII as my experience. I never really liked it. Ruger LCP as #1? If you can't hit the side of a barn in a pressure situation the caliber of your weapon isn"t going to save you. Deep carry a kimber ultra raptor II for primary weapon. Once broken in, all four of these guns have been happy with a variety of ammo. The latter country, in the 1980s, made a contract for the purchase of Walther pistols, PP model, in 22 lr caliber. Box of 5000 5 boxes of 1,000 I sent back my SR556VT that I bought new. It's a good balance of weight and reliability. I also disagree with Danny-I think the II looks much better than the original. Of course one must practice with any firearm to learn the particularities of that gun. Meaning they do not hold up to a lot of ammo down range. Bersa Thunder fan here. And Howard H - I couldnt agree more. Still very pleased with the gun. I have fired a wide variety of 9mm rounds out of it. This innovation in 1929, was revolutionary in the world of weapons, and led to its adoption as a regulation and special services weapon, in almost all of Europe, and the rest of the world, countries such as Sweden, Switzerland, Germany, France, Brazil , Bolivia, Turkey, Bulgaria, Austria and even the secret services of England. I always thought I needed to carry a 9 or 45 now I know I don't. To help you guys, we've built out this list of some of the best 380 carry pistols with the help of our readers and our staff writers. Remember, a .380 started a World War. You might need to refresh or clear your cache then. Mine were made by Smith&Wesson, you would think for the price they could have deburred those edges. Mine is the Tribal edition. The S&W is the pistol she will be using to qualify for her Texas License to Carry CHL class.

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