In March 2021, it was revealed that the pair were still in contact while he serves five life sentences at the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, Wisconsin. What if he killed his (beautiful) children because, in some strange way, he was killing that child in himself, the one he loathed and felt great shame for. Following their sons admission, Ronnie and Cindy Watts protected Chris innocence, claiming his lawyer talked him into confessing to a crime with mounting evidence against him whether he committed those acts or not. Okay? o His mother worked as a secretary and notary for a used car dealership. Shananns family are so nice and normal compared to Chriss. Firstly, in the Casey Anthony case, Caylee died the day after Fathers Day. For more information, please see our Chris just saw red and let his moms words take over.. And they can record all they want.. Throughout all my reading of the case Ive never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SWs fb). CW had tended to side with Shanann against his mother until not long before the horrendous murders. He was always the quiet kid who followed the rules. This suggests Mothers Day and Fathers Day in 2018, in the Watts home, were hugely significant milestones, particularly with a third baby on the way. It was a very pretty shower. he met Nicky Kessinger and wanted a fresh new start, and to an empty vessel of a soul narcissist, that meant eliminating his family, not divorcing his wife, but eliminating her. You usually tell that person and give them the option of asking someone else. Am I to assume that you are the author of Cindys book? I like your take on this. Article continues below advertisement Records show Nowak made. Total narcissism. I thought it was odd. I watched the doc on Netflix, and I think theres a lot going on that no one will ever know. Id fightbut then you ask yourself, Would a normal person putdispose of the bodies the way that he did? It scares me to death [speaking softly, nodding] that he could have done all of this. Exclusive Visit with the Colorado Killer Chris Watts and His Last 3 Living Relatives.The exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga.The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23.https://www.yc.news/2020/10/03/exclusive-prison-visit-with-the-colorado-killer-chris-watts-and-his-last-3-living-relatives-to-debut-oct-23/https://fb.me/e/1xvjL7nbyThis video is for educational purposes:Chris Watts Mothers Book Parts 1-6https://youtu.be/pFXjLuNvWXkDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/ Or if youre a woman, you have submitted that youre trash as a woman, from being subjected to those men who spend their time making youtube videos saying they dont want women, but instead of leaving women alone, they spend their time trying to make women feel bad, The WATTS family that were inlaws to Shanann, all THREE of them, give all in laws a bad name. A community to discuss the murders of Shan'ann, Bella, Celeste, and Nico Watts, who were murdered by their confessed killer, Christopher Lee Watts, now serving 5 life sentences at Dodge County Correctional Institution on Waupun, WI. There is right, and there is wrong. ive been thinking about this for a little while but does anyone else think that jamie gave chris the oxy?? Previous post 10 X Audio Excerpts from the TWO FACE series read by the author [Includes the Story behind what went into writing the various narratives] Next post "The reason the medical examiner found Oxycodone in Shan'ann's system is because I gave it to her" - Chris Watts So rehash all the old disputes and wounds, nothing stands but his murderous actions. THEY WERE ALL INVITED. They already proved that chick to be a fake. The wedding? "Happy . You were made for something else. But it does change the dynamics That said, Im not sure I understand the camp [besides the family] who are championing the cause of Chris Watts. Zoom in on his eyes. As Shanann asked her too. Chris Watts book Chris Watts' sister Jamie Watts. Why put the nuts out knowing it could set Shannan off? Sisters' Amy Slaton and Michael Halterman's Divorce. But Shanann accused them of tampering with her food. We dont have to like or even try to get with *in-laws*.there could be many reasons behindWhy. A while back, I saw a video of Chris, Shanann, Bella and CeeCee with Chris parents. While Chris parents have been vocal about their son, his sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, remains silent. Cindy Watts was in a power game that she couldnt win. I dont want him to take this plea deal. Despicable And completely typical Narcissistic behavior. Chris Watts's prison girlfriend is Anna Nowak, who currently lives in Wisconsin, where Chris Watts is serving his sentence. I feel like he thought hed have better chances of getting away with it after that is if he took his kids life away too. Just not now. Play it back and the reporter has just mentioned the couple married in 2012. I want you, then, if this is your decision, then you get in there and make something [inaudible]. Your comment fully reveals how humans can distort and exaggerate most of what they hear. They lived in different States and only had to put up with each other for a little while. As for being attracted to Nichol Kessinger I can see why she is Gorgeous and unfortunately too often people go by looks and forget about character. His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. For me, this revelation enmity between Shanann and Cindy Watts reminds me of two aspects in two other cases. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Its simply an act of madness. This site isnt in any camp except the true crime camp, which means investigate sometimes dispassionately what happened, and why. the person who gave him the oxy had to be in his family since he said hed take whoever it was to the grave. The conversation spiraled out of control when Cindy claimed 3-year-old Celeste was a spitting image of her father, who brutally murdered her. Shes fighting because its her son. She waited for that opportunity to do something so evil and ugly when nobody was around to see it. Her reaction I think was justified in that her daughter could have died, but then she told Chris that he wasnt ALLOWED to talk to his family. So she travels to give them medicine or treatment. His father was the disciplinarian in the family. o His father worked as a Parts Manager for a Ford dealership. Im not attempting to conflate the two choices, just the fact of the toll it took on them. My Sister's Closet Suzanne Singer Mr. & Mrs. William . Would you let a child rapist babysit your kid? No, none of us are. That woman was lying when she said she loves her son. Everyone that has tried to help her in the past has ended up breaking free of her because they know how narcissistic she is. That was not an excuse to kill her by any means but she was fairly toxic herself. She even waited for her husband to run out of the house on an errand to expose CeCe to the nuts. Yeah Gabby, and it sure is too bad that we cant clear this all up and move on well we can, but Shanan, CeeCee and Bella cannot because Chris Watts choked them to death. Not sure what more she wanted in a daughter-in-law. I carry grudges. Jump to Sections of this page Weirdly, he thought that quietly disposing of his family would bring less shame than initiating a divorce -which would make him publicly look like the bad guy. At 1:27 in this video link, Cindy Watts says it so quickly its easy to miss it completely. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. WATTS [Licks lips]: Im so happy that theyre here. Send it to us! Cookie Notice Chris Watts with his Sister Wife, Children & Relationships Chris met Shanann Watts in 2010; she was an independent representative for a multilevel marketing company called 'Le-vel,' which is focused on selling the wellness product called 'Thrive.' When a person commits to being a bridesmaid, that includes showing up. Was Shannan a saint? Blocking them on Facebook, refusing to come to Celestes birthday, sending her gift to Colorado rather than sending it over to her birthday party. Both these families, had multiple discord amongst them all. If he were to get away with murder, he can still pretend to be Mr Perfect. Its not professional, Jamie Watts Williams job connection to nutgate. He went gray rock very early on in life to deal to cope with his mother. They cant have been too bad then!!! Love your take. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Chris Watts: Voted most likely to succeed in the Class of 2003 Reliable enough to trust about nuts. you can see that just in the text messages in the documentary. During her sons trial, Cindy added, I have always loved you and I still do. He is a narcisstic twit and wanted a new life with the GF. Shanann was the dominant force, definitely not Cindy. I just read that: i believe it was 100% premeditated by the family to give shannan the pills. She was pretty controlling. Shes a piece of work, that one. This mother in law was rude to her the first time they met. , he was always a lunatic, he just mimicked others very well. His despicable family took up more time than anybody. Through his own admission, he says he did it to be with Nikki. And they can record all they want. In Touch Weekly has affiliate partnerships so we may receive compensation for some links to products and services. Killing his own child insideI think its the opposite. This!!!! The Watts Family Tapes is slated to debut on Your Content via Facebook Live Fri. Oct. 23. But notice that, in the wake of NutGate, Chris commented to ShanAnn that she had put a dagger between him and his *father*. Jamie Lyn Williams, the sister of Colorado killer Chris Watts appears in an exclusive prison sit-down with her brother. only a fraction of the reality? I do think that Cindy Watts may have some mom denial going on, but who could blame her really. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U_-nUnbIgTU. and our Cindy Watts probably pressured her not to partake. Yet another Watts fan club rumor. Chris Watts is a liar and like all sociopath narcissist did a smear campaign on Shanann. So, Shannans reaction was on point. Unless you have ever been victimized by a narcissistic toxic family, you really have no understanding of the level of dysfunction happening to the targeted victim. Also apparently Frankie receiving death threats and some really nasty messages.. To just throw them away? Bitch excuse me?? Oct 31 2015. Does anyone know if shes ever made any kind of public statement or opinion? Trust me., We support you 100%. Trinket doesnt say much, does she? His former mistress on Inside Edition said they watched the movie Shutter Island the first night they had sex. The day that bitch died was the best day ever, Cindy watts was toxic to that marriage. I mean are you for real? Theres no such thing as all good or all bad. *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-chp2Xo5Xo. Both were their mothers golden boys and both mothers disapproved of their daughter-in-laws. There isnt a book. Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister JAMIE. Ronnie blocked Shannan from Facebook. That isnt even what happened. What she did do is add to our fami,y and gave me two awesome grandsons. Agreed. She made Chris into what he is today, a monster. She doesnt show up for critical, life-altering-for-immediate-family court dates either, does she? In 2019, Chris neighbor spoke out about what he saw the night Chris allegedly murdered his family. She made that post in a private allergy support page. Growing up, he lived with his mother, father, and sister (JAMIE). There can also be a rhyme and reason to insanity, and its true crimes mission to find those rhymes and reasons. Its that simple. Shannan would have gone down with a fight if she were awake. 2021 Original Media Group Corporation. There is also what woman called the schoolhis sister or mother or his mistress? New comments cannot be posted. But he was afaird to speak up..why Shanann I feel so terrible for the family of Shannon and the children. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. Those invested in the case have wondered why she has yet to speak out. I think Chris became Chris by way of his mother. Powered by BlueHost . (With regard to CHRIS' background and upbringing.) Perhaps you could learn more before commenting with over the top emotion. I just want him to fight. Read shanann watts mothers statement in discovery about other incidents. It was hard on his father when he CHRIS left because his father was used to him CHRIS always being around. 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Everyone would be so sad for him that his family were gone and so pleased that he went on to find a new woman (Vomit). The prison exclusive also showcases Watts' sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who managed to remain the most secretive and silent figure in the saga. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. I think Cindy probably encouraged Jaime to not send them or even throw them away. God is watching. https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/. Pentagon to Mandate Vaccinations for All Servicemembers by Sept. 15, President Biden to halt travel to and from United States for Brazil, Ireland, UK and Europe, FAA says youll be fined $35,000 and sent to JAIL if you are unruly on a flight due to riots, World Health Organization Confirms China Refusing Entry to Epidemiologists, exclusive video obtained by Your Content set to debut Oct. 23. Pro-family, pro-killer. Did Chris Watts not mind his wife Shanann humiliating him on Facebook? They still should have been the bigger people and just attended the wedding and put up & shut up. Jamie Middleton Kerry Milligan Jodi Noble Julie Pierce Kimberlee Reimann Padilla* Ann Siner* Sue Singer Dr. Craig Thatcher* Cindy Treacy Cindy Watts Daryl Weil Dr. Kathy Wigal Patty Withycombe Susan Yannitelli *Arizona Humane Society Board of Directors. I want to know why Shanann didnt think something would go horribly wrong visiting her in-laws without Chris being there. Ten years later the Anthonys are still fighting to keep their home, Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis, https://www.websleuths.com/forums/search/2228646/, Christopher Watts: What else do we know? What he did was deplorable and disgusting beyond belief. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. I couldnt be on his or his familys side. She was you. Was it for total freedom to have a fresh start? I get she had a problem and took offense to moms attitude toward the nut access, but to go on a Facebook rant was a bit much, imo. They say its victim blaming, but a lot of the people who say that are also current or former MLMs and they identify very directly with her. Border agent dies and two others are 'gravely' injured following a shootout in major drug smuggling corridor off the coast of Puerto Rico: Suspected smuggler also dead after two Americans arrested. No damn way. But opting out of some of these cookies may have an effect on your browsing experience. By clicking Sign Up, you agree to our Terms and Conditions and that you have read our Privacy Policy. Sign up for breaking news email alerts from Your Content. I think she also said somewhere that shell fight for him no matter what. i havent seen anyone bring her up or the fact that she even works at a hospital, or even as suspect for nicos murder but she def is in my book. That is a losing battle. Cindy replied: No, I cant lose you. It probably helped that her murder occurred shortly after a big blow up between Shannan and his parents. This really upset Bella and she went crying to the v reliable and intelligent babysitter about it. That likely would have changed everything. Ironic it wasnt shanann who destroyed her son, this mistress is more involved than she tried to say, it was more her that helped destroy Chriss life, she didnt do it but telling him immediately to pawn her rings? CW's sister Jamie Throughout all my reading of the case I've never seen much about his sister Jamie (who I believe was Jamie Watts Williams according to SW's fb). Just Like you. I understand you might not like your mother in law and your mother in law very well could be a shrew, terrible woman like Cindy. I do think it was horrible that they didnt go to the wedding. \"Featuring Chris Watts, His Parents Cindy \u0026 Ronnie Watts and Sister, Jamie Lyn Williams, who - until now - managed to remain the MOST SECRETIVE and SILENT FIGURE in terms of the two families sucked into this case thus far.\"Chris Watts Playlist:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVxQLTsXwHrd3TjIHmOWhCKbuD07llQ6ZThis video is for educational purposesDon't forget to Subscribe:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5c1crGPtnf3ZJ5TKWl918QSubscribe to my new vlog channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHOYcyT3bHfeEh4n65C1TYQ/Become a Patron:www.patreon.com/JimevaCrimeTime My thoughts are just that its a pretty big deal not to go to a wedding so it would be interesting to get all the facts. Then there was a totally separate event an engagement party thrown by ShanAnns maid of honor Nichole Canady, which his family had zero part of. WHY???? I think that Chris wanted to save face. When no one was replying they were coming Shanann found out it was because Jamie, his sister, had intentionally not mailed out the invites to sabatoge the wedding. We know because the babysitter told the police all this during her interview with them. On that day Shanann posted a picture of her own mother for Mothers Day, gave credit to her husband for getting her the perfect Mothers Day gift, and also posted a cartoon dedicated to all the important women in her life but nothing on Cindy Watts. You mentioned the Lacy Peterson case in passing, but the comparisons are far closer. Shannan was at the height of wedding planning which is the most stressful time, and she probably decided she couldnt deal with Jamies lack of involvement. Thanks for the link JC. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Shanann kept trying to involve his family of ungrates she should have told them to all fuck off when they didnt go tot he wedding and tried to sabatoge that as well, Watts sister and mother went to the bridal party before the wedding. I think it looks foolish for her to write the book with her mother denying illness and allergies while being in the health care industry. Who cares why?? He became intolerant of these ongoing family issues once he started his affair with Nikki. We also know on June 9th, Shanann had a massive meltdown at Cindy Watts home, an event that occurred plumb in the middle between Mothers Day and Fathers Day. Two camps. Why not believe the physician that prescribed the epi pen? If Watts started to develop first enmity, then a murderous resentment towards his wife [no one is saying he was justified, just that those feelings had to have been there], then if his own parents disliked Shanann [as Scott Petersons disliked or felt superior to Lacis] he may have felt he could get away with it. Nothing special. As we now know, it took the Watts parents all of two seconds to give Chris a pass for killing Shannan. Happy Thanksgiving 2017: Shanann Watts makes mini cannolis. I think the doctor told her it was a slight nut allergy not carry an epipen/anaphylactic shock type nut allergy. Archived post. Would you put your child, no seatbelt, in a car with a drunk driver? Haha, that was my own mother. Estranged from the family? And learn about all teh times they bashed Shanann in front of her and behind her back. So sad. Chris had CeeCee on his shoulders and Shanaan was walking next to them. Chris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wife,chris watts,shanann watts,bella watts,true crime,watts family murders,jamie watts,cindy watts,full story,watts,nichol kessinger,shanann,christopher watts, dr phil chris watts, dr phil chris watts full spisode, chris watts dr phil chris watts sister, tv newsChris Watts rebellious sister Jamie drops Watts - Was loved by Chris Watts Wifehttps://youtu.be/6u1L9jeh434JAMIE is seven years older than him. He gets along well with JAMIE and her husband. Its probable that she really did not want to be part of the wedding party to begin with (under constant pressure from Cindy). Let me end with saying that I dont know what happened that night, but I think that its a tragedy we can all expect to learn from. Your stories not over. Theyre right of course, the murder of three members of ones nearest and dearest is an act of madness, but thats not the whole story. And the whole time Shannan is dealing with this, Chris is cuddling back home with another woman. Can I add that SW seemed like a classic shit stirrer too?? They appeared to be walking through an open mall cafes, shops the sun was setting. Chris, I forgive you, and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you.. She completely shut me down. His father, Ronnie, chimed in adding, If he didnt kill the children, I want him to face that and let them prove it.. Its always about control with these women. For my part, Im interested in knowing more about the family dynamics, and the characters involved. Uh, the root of all evil is Chris Watts. You say that he killed his family because he wanted a new life with his mistress, not because he disliked his wife, so did he kill his wife because he liked her then? What if just *one* of them would have decided to be a bigger person and make nice for the sake of Chris, whom they both loved? Their rage is deep seated and ends in a final act of murder, which seem totally out of character to all who felt they knew them.

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